motion filed in US District Court

[Hoss]

Via The AnarchAngel at http://anarchangel.blogspot.com/

He seems to think that Obama may be in trouble for not providing proof of his Citizenship in response to Plaintiff : PHILIP J. BERG, ESQUIRE. AnarchAngel has the entire civil action posted, and it makes absolutely fascinating reading, although it's on the long and convoluted side. I'm afraid I'm not a lawyer but apparently the plaintiff believes he's ready for judgment.

The gist is here:

In vetting the Presidential candidate the DNC and FEC are required to ensure the
eligibility requirements pursuant to our Constitution are met and the Presidential
candidate, if elected, would be eligible to serve as President.

To be eligible and qualified to run for and/or serve for Office of the President of the United States a person must be a “natural born” citizen. United States Constitution, Article II, Section I.

...

In response to requests from Plaintiff and the general public for Obama to
produce proof of his citizenship, Obama allowed the Daily Kos to post on their website an image of a Certification of Live Birth with Obama’s name on it purporting to be Obama’s birth certificate at www.dailykos.com.

This same image was also placed on Obama’s website, http://fightthesmears.com and on another website located at http://factcheck.org.

The image placed on these websites is of a Hawaiian document which is provided for children’s births in Hawaii as “natural born”, as well as births abroad, which have been registered in Hawaii, whether the citizenship status was “natural born” or “naturalized”.

Thus, the posting of Obama’s purported birth certificate did not prove Obama was a “natural born” citizen.

Further, the images placed on these three (3) websites were later discovered by Document Image Specialists to be altered and forged images.

It appears that Obama became an Indonesian citizen.

[steel609]

Wow. That would be interesting if it's true, but it's so hard to tell what's true and what's BS in today's media.

Wonder why this was never mentioned before?

[markmillrun]

I was wondering if this would be brought up or not, now that it has, does anyone know where Mcain was born? Do your homework and you will find that he was born in the Panama Canal, which was never a state of the United States. There is a circumstance which makes it legal for him to run for president which is ironic because neither candidate seems to be eager to say without a doubt where they were born and why they both have stories behing their birth place. This seems to be the most circumstancial election I can remember. I think we should call it a draw and get 2 candidates from this web site. I'll vote for McQ68 do I have any followers?:fullofcrap:

[McQ68]

I think we should call it a draw and get 2 candidates from this web site. I'll vote for McQ68 do I have any followers?:fullofcrap:
Man, where did I put my birth certificate? I guess I'll have to MAKE a new one. Can goats run as VP??;)

[steel609]

Man, where did I put my birth certificate? I guess I'll have to MAKE a new one. Can goats run as VP??;)


A republican Goat would be better than the Dem candidates! ;)

[Charles Daly]

markmillrun, I have to respectfully disagree. This subject is far from a draw. McCain was born on a US military base, by definition a part of the US in much the same way than an embassy or consulate in a foreign country is considered US soil.

Obama on the other hand... no one is quite sure where he was born. THe Hawaiin certificate is not proof of birth. I am not normally a conspiracy theorist, but this trip to Hawaii yesterday smacks of intrigue. I suspect, as do many more knowledgeable than I, that his trip was really about straigtening out some of the "birthing" documents.

I also believe that it's too late and Obama will be our next president.

President of the United Socialist States of America.....USSA....that acronym looks eerily familiar....but I can't put my finger on it....where have I seen those intitials before?

[steel609]

Maybe I'm just being optomistic, but I don't think Obama will win. I think it will be close, but in the end, McCain will win.

That's my final answer. (or prayer)

[McQ68]

Maybe I'm just being optomistic, but I don't think Obama will win. I think it will be close, but in the end, McCain will win.
That's my final answer. (or prayer)
It's a very rare occasion, but for once, I will also be "optimistic" and agree with Steel. This election is very controversial: ACORN, birth certificates, Muslim campaign funding and backing, Chicago behind the scenes politics, old Weathermen "friends" etc, and the outcome is just too close to call. It might even end up as a challenge in the court system. But, saying all that, I'm still stocking up on ammo and mags. You just can't have too much ammo and mags.

[steel609]

My son watched CSPAN all day yesterday, and he was telling me that they predict that McCain will get PA and FL, with a final total of 280. We all know he only needs 275 electorial votes to win, so that gives him a bit of a cushion.

Hopefully.

[Go Blue!]

Back when McGovern ran against Nixon, Nixon had a team of lawyers lined up to sue the DNC and FEC since McGovern was not a Natural Born citizen. McGovern was born in AZ before it was a state.

[Chad H]

Back when McGovern ran against Nixon, Nixon had a team of lawyers lined up to sue the DNC and FEC since McGovern was not a Natural Born citizen. McGovern was born in AZ before it was a state.

That's interesting history....

[steel609]

I always new there was something fishy about those Arizonians. ;)

[Gramps]

I have to wonder about what the media say's about who is ahead and who isn't.

How many of you know personally of people who are voting for Obama and how many do you know who are voting for McCain?

I know a lot more for McCain than Obama and I don't have Friends/acquaintances that we really care what party you are. If Obama was a Repub I still wouldn't like/trust him.

So I wonder if the media is telling the TRUTH or what THEY WANT.

[steel609]

I have to wonder about what the media say's about who is ahead and who isn't.

How many of you know personally of people who are voting for Obama and how many do you know who are voting for McCain?

I know a lot more for McCain than Obama and I don't have Friends/acquaintances that we really care what party you are. If Obama was a Repub I still wouldn't like/trust him.

So I wonder if the media is telling the TRUTH or what THEY WANT.

Ditto! I have raised this same point at the Hospital I work at. I have 1 person my entire 10 man team that says he is for Obama, but also tells me that he may not even vote as Kentucky is a "notoriously Republican state". I have a strong feeling that is what alot of Obama "supporters will do, or not do.

[McQ68]

The 2 most populated states just happen to also be extremely liberal-NY and California. There are many large cities and areas(NorthEast) that are also majority liberal. It takes a whole lot of "little" Republican states to balance out just those 2 states. The sparsely populated rural areas are for the most part Republican-still doesn't make up for the cities.

[Sagetown]

Here's an interesting bit I read about a year ago.
An old time Pentacostal Evangelist was doing a lot of predicting about World War I and other things, and his predictions actually happened. One of his last predictions was that the last leader of the United States of America would be a beautiful woman who would come into power and harshly reign over the people.

We'll see if what he said holds water.

[Charles Daly]

How many of you know personally of people who are voting for Obama and how many do you know who are voting for McCain?


Here in Central Pennsylvania, almost everyone I talk to outside of the office, says they are voting Obama. McCain and Palin are coming to Hershey, PA in just a few days and I'm going to see them, but I'm afraid that them winning PA is not going to happen. Too many unions, teachers, etc., in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh for the rural and other urban areas to overcome.

[McQ68]

One of his last predictions was that the last leader of the United States of America would be a beautiful woman who would come into power and harshly reign over the people.
"Beautiful" woman. Well that definitely rules out Hillary:D So McCain/Palin win, something happens to McCain and Palin becomes President. With her personality, I don't see her "reigning harshly" though.

[markmillrun]

Did anyone hear about Palin and her brother in law in Alaska? When her sister was getting a divorce from a state policeman Palin went to his boss and told him to fire her brother in law and when the guy had nothing to fire him over she said that if he didn't fire him he would be fired instead. He refused to fire him and oddly enough within a few days the boss was fired and replaced by a guy who's first action was to fire Palin's brother in law. This is still under investigation and might end up with legal ramifications. If she would do this as Senator of a fairly unpopulated state of Alaska what would she do as Vice President of this great United States? This is scary and I don't trust her at all. As far as being beautiful, yes she is pretty but with 5 kids and a lot of makeup I wonder what she looks like when she rolls out of bed in the morning.

[steel609]

Did anyone hear about Palin and her brother in law in Alaska? When her sister was getting a divorce from a state policeman Palin went to his boss and told him to fire her brother in law and when the guy had nothing to fire him over she said that if he didn't fire him he would be fired instead. He refused to fire him and oddly enough within a few days the boss was fired and replaced by a guy who's first action was to fire Palin's brother in law. This is still under investigation and might end up with legal ramifications. If she would do this as Senator of a fairly unpopulated state of Alaska what would she do as Vice President of this great United States? This is scary and I don't trust her at all.

There's more to the story, just dig a little deeper than taking the story at the media's face value. Not saying there wasn't a little family justice going on, but there is few people that are so righteous as too not use our power if the need arose. If you want to hire somone that is family or friend, or whatever, that's ok to some, but don't fire that person when they don't turn out to be the person you thought. IMO, that's a bit 2 faced.

As far as being beautiful, yes she is pretty but with 5 kids and a lot of makeup I wonder what she looks like when she rolls out of bed in the morning.

So many comments come to mind, but this is a family friendly forum. ;)

[Charles Daly]

As far as being beautiful, yes she is pretty but with 5 kids and a lot of makeup I wonder what she looks like when she rolls out of bed in the morning.

It's interesting to me how the media is more concerned with what Palin spent on her wardrobe than whether or not Obama is buddies with a known terrorist or whether or not Obama was actually born in the US.

I'm sure glad the media has our priorities straight. :rolleyes:

[McQ68]

There's more to the story, just dig a little deeper than taking the story at the media's face value. Not saying there wasn't a little family justice going on, but there is few people that are so righteous as too not use our power if the need arose. So many comments come to mind, but this is a family friendly forum. ;)
"As the 'media' is reporting the story." And exactly which "media" would that be? The one that totally has supported Obama from the very beginning and won't even comment on his "possible" Muslim background and support, the question of his birth certificate, his Weathermen connection, ACORN and on and on. Like anything in life, it really depends on what "side" or "viewpoint" you are listening to. Like having 5 witnesses to a crime and they all describe 5completely different stories. If you're a firm believer in CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC and what the latest "expert" Hollywood actor has to babble about, then you definitely would have a certain "slant" on the "truth", wouldn't you. Sometimes there's more than one version of the "truth." As for what Palin would look like in the morning, I wouldn't have any complaints what so ever, but that's just me.

[Gramps]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-8fZVWCWrY

I just got this in an E-mail, Subject: Makes you think.

It is strange as to how the US (even sheople) can turn a blind eye/ear to all this. It is not just one thing repeatedly brought up but many many by many different people/organizations.