View Full Version : Why can't I store my AR-15 in its new case?
Mike K.
08-27-2008, 07:53 PM
Still waiting for my D-M4LE to arrive, either the end of this week or next Tuesday due to Labor Day. I picked up a carry bag for it; it's called Blackdog. It's a heavy black canvas bag, four mag holders on the outside, one extra zippered pouch on the outside, nice and comfortable shoulder strap and very padded interior. I thought it was a nice bag for I think it was
$ 45.00. But after I pay for it the gun shop guy said it's ok to transfer the gun back and forth to the range; but don't store the gun in the case. I was in a hurry to get back to work and didn't ask him why, I assumed he was referring to oil from the gun getting on the bag, which has a black interior. Any other thoughts?
McQ68
08-27-2008, 09:24 PM
Still waiting for my D-M4LE to arrive, either the end of this week or next Tuesday due to Labor Day. I picked up a carry bag for it; it's called Blackdog. It's a heavy black canvas bag, four mag holders on the outside, one extra zippered pouch on the outside, nice and comfortable shoulder strap and very padded interior. I thought it was a nice bag for I think it was $ 45.00. But after I pay for it the gun shop guy said it's ok to transfer the gun back and forth to the range; but don't store the gun in the case. I was in a hurry to get back to work and didn't ask him why, I assumed he was referring to oil from the gun getting on the bag, which has a black interior. Any other thoughts? We can quess, but I'd call him and ask him specifically why he said that-then we can go from there on his answer. What's the interior made of-cloth over foam or just foam? I will say, the barrel of an AR heats up pretty good with rapid fire and to put it into a case right after that, would melt the inside of the case-ck 1st. And some oils can mess up some types of foam, but they wouldn't put that in a rifle case, would they?:rolleyes:
rtintwo
08-27-2008, 09:30 PM
When i left for basic, i left a winchester 94 in its foam lined case. When i made it back home on leave i found that it had alot of surface rust. My thinking went that the foam in the case retained humidity and caused the rusting. I have known several guys that have stored their gun in the cases for years and never had a problem. I figured that i was just that lucky to come home to a rusty rifle.
McQ68
08-27-2008, 09:47 PM
Definitely related to where you live and how much humidity in the house/safe. Humidity in AZ was like 10%, here in NC seems like it's 75% most of the time. They sell dessicant and different driers for safes.
Mike K.
08-27-2008, 09:52 PM
The interior is a cloth material over foam. The sticker says the bag is completely waterproof and that the bag and your weapon will float if the combined weight doesn't exceed 10 lbs. I doubt humidity would get inside if it's supposed to be waterproof; just don't know. I guess I should follow his advice and take it out after I get home from the range and clean it and just stand it next to my nightstand, stoked with the finest .223. I will probably see him in a few days to ask him to elaborate.
McQ68
08-27-2008, 10:04 PM
By completely waterproof, it also means that water can't get in, but any moisture trapped inside can't get out-that's where the rust would come from. Like if it was real humid at the range and the case was open, the foam could absorb any moisture in the air and then bringing it home and storing it closed with trapped moisture=rust. Just a calculated guess on my part.
steel609
08-27-2008, 10:27 PM
By completely waterproof, it also means that water can't get in, but any moisture trapped inside can't get out-that's where the rust would come from. Like if it was real humid at the range and the case was open, the foam could absorb any moisture in the air and then bringing it home and storing it closed with trapped moisture=rust. Just a calculated guess on my part.
I can see this explanation making sense. Like was mentioned earlier, you can always get some dessicant pouches, and place them in the case with your rifles to absorb the moisture.
rtintwo
08-27-2008, 10:35 PM
Mike K it would probably be a good idea to check out the manufactures website for any info or maybe send them a email. I would trust what the maker says more than what the gun store clerk says.
McQ68
08-27-2008, 10:47 PM
Mike K it would probably be a good idea to check out the manufactures website for any info or maybe send them a email. I would trust what the maker says more than what the gun store clerk says.
Wait a minute-are you saying that all gun store clerks don't always tell the truth when they say their products are better than the ones they don't stock. I don't believe that.:rolleyes::fullofcrap: I really like using that one.
Mike K.
08-27-2008, 10:59 PM
That explanation sounds reasonable to me as well. I will google them to see if they have a website. It could be a chinese knockoff.
TigerStripe
08-28-2008, 01:14 AM
It may be related to state law. I've only used a case for one of my AR's. It usually rides "shotgun" on the trip there and back. If I shot it a lot, it rides home in the back.
TS
Mike K.
08-28-2008, 08:50 AM
I couldn't find a website for Blackdog gun cases. Oh well, I usually keep my firearms properly lubricated and I usually visit or carry them every few days, so hopefully rust won't have an opportunity to sneak up on me.
Yup, the problem is anytime metal is colder than the ambient temperature, water will condense on it and the foam will retain the moisture. And then you get rust.
I live at exactly sea level, so I have both moisture and salt to worry about. I use "Bore Stores' for anything that might conceivably rust or corrode, including firearms, dies, head space gauges, etc. The Bore Stores are inexpensive, handy and widely available. For longer periods of non-use I would get the plastic, sealable Z Corr bags. (MidwayUSA has both of those products.)
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